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by tbrock 1198 days ago
Performance isn’t there. Why spend 3k+ on this?
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M1 Ultra on macOS: ca. 1800 (1C) ca. 24000 (20C) https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/20798209

Ampere Altra on Windows: ca. 800 (1C) ca. 12800 (80C) https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/20639458

Ampere Altra on Linux: ca. 900 (1C) ca. 44000 (80C) https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ampere-altra-max-80-ccore-...

Apparently the key to getting performance out of the Ampere Altra is … to just not use Windows? And have a very parallel workload. Yes, a single Altra core is half as fast as a single M1 Ultra core. But it really depends on your use case and other factors (e.g. power efficiency) which one is preferable.

What's wrong with the performance?
A comparable m1 is twice as fast in the above benchmarks?

And that’s Apple’s chip from 2 years ago!

Core for core this is a dog.

altra is also > 2 years old, so the age of the apple chip doesn’t matter

Neoverse N1 is hardly a dog. It’s a decent enough core in a server processor that has 80 of them.

Altra is not intended to compete core for core with any laptop/desktop/workstation processor.

Surely if you consider apple hardware you don't care about performance, price or supporting an ecosystem that underpins the very essence of you are trying to do.

Buying mac hardware for a linux workstation is madness.

I really would like someone else to put out something competitive in that case, I’m rooting for them but haven’t seen it yet.
For a workstation there are tons of options? I'd argue tha mac studio is a very weak offering for that usecase.
I would argue there are zero options in x86 land that will give you the mac studio form factor (tiny, stylish, quiet) with that level of performance. PC workstations in that class are noisy big beasts. For some people how it looks is part of the set of requirements, and it is not “madness” to also care about that.
Noisy beasts... Hyperbole much?

But yes, if by workstation you mean shiny then sure!