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by ludovicianul 1207 days ago
This is why we need better tools which will give benefits for the added complexity. If you need to create both the feature files AND the code, it's just complexity with little benefits. But frameworks like https://github.com/karatelabs/karate or https://github.com/Endava/cats are hiding this complexity and remove the code layer entirely. Which, in my view, this is where you need to be in 2023, particularly for API testing.
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regularfry 1207 days ago
I'd completely disagree. Not necessarily for cats, which I wasn't previously aware of, but in my experience there's no benefit to having karate in the mix.
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ludovicianul 1207 days ago
Why would you say that? Majority of code is repetitive. Why still focus on writing it for every project? I agree that you cannot have 100% of tests without actual code, but a significant percentage can just be feature files only.
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regularfry 1207 days ago
Where I come from we do such revolutionary things as writing libraries and defining abstractions to avoid repetitive code. Why introducing a new tool with its own language for this seems like a good idea to anyone utterly baffles me.

Also, I should add, where I've seen karate used on teams it's deepened the division between devs and testers. So in addition to being questionable engineering, it's sociologically toxic.

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