[komali2]

As a cyclist for the last 15 years I get this. At the end of the day you gotta keep to what you think will keep you alive.

I can't be sure of the exact mechanisms or whether I'm observing behavior correctly, but a strategy that seemed to be shaking out in SF is cyclists aggressively standing up for our rights, by for example one person blocking cars from making illegal rights while the rest of the bicyclists rode along, or by repeatedly asking people parked in the bike lane to move along.

Again I can't be sure about mechanism of action all I know is that over the course of five years, bicycling in the sf area transformed from a battleground to a relatively easy ride full of demure cars sometimes going out of their way to give right of way to bicyclists (like expecting bicyclists to run stop signs, something I personally disagree with but hey, the slower cars are going the better).

My personal strategy was to decorate myself with so many strobes I was like a rolling disco ball. You can get some pretty crazy bright bicycle lights these days. That plus the GoPro, the rearview mirror, all the shit hanging off my bike... I looked dumb as hell but also the last bicyclist on earth you'd wanna cut off.

[convolvatron]

that thing where they stop and insist you cross first even though they have the right away really bothers me. it takes longer for both of us and creates a really uncomfortable ambiguity about whether they are actually going to start.

I've just started going up on the sidewalk and dropping a foot to make it clear I'm just not going to cross...or turn if it makes sense

I guess its not as bad the mission post pandemic. seems like people are really blowing through stop signs now

[kccqzy]

Yes! As a bicyclist on my route I regularly yield to cars that stopped before me on a 4-way stop, but those cars insist I cross first. During broad daylight they often wave to me, but at night it can be difficult to see whether they actually intend to let me cross first.

[lotsoweiners]

Yes. As a full time driver and part time pedestrian if someone in a car tries wave me on while I'm on foot I literally turn around and walk in the other direction until they get the hint. Drivers need to practice traffic right away instead of chivalry.