[onion2k]

I hate hate hate that modern web development requires a build system. No build system would probably get me to convert to Deno.

I feel the same about C and C++. And Java. And Fortran, Pascal, Lisp, Kotlin, Swift, Rust, Forth...

[sitkack]

Not being snarky, but Lisp and Forth should have interactive experiences that the other languages do not have. The Pascal related languages are renowned for being designed to be compiled at high speed.

This is a wonderful book, "The School of Niklaus Wirth: The Art of Simplicity"

https://tkurtbond.github.io/posts/2022/07/04/the-school-of-n...

Esp this chapter on the Wirthian way of designing compilers https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221350529_Compiler_...

See also the widely read (on hn), https://prog21.dadgum.com/47.html