[entropyie]

I agree, and I would love to see more state managed, long term thinking enterprise. The problem I have seen first hand though is that we've somehow established that state worker = impossible to fire. I've seen teachers literally hit students and not be fired. I've seen unions in state owned transport companies prevent truck drivers from changing a lightbulb by themselves, forcing a truck offline for a whole day and missing all deliveries. I've seen employees prevented from lifting a modest box to their own desk, having to wait for a "trained porter". This is the main reason so many politicians are wary of public enterprise. If we could tackle the worst abuses of unions then we would be in a much better position to have stronger public enterprise.

[relaxing]

Meanwhile we all know corporate workers who produce zero or negative value for the enterprise, yet are not fired.

The main reason politicians are anti-public enterprise is because they are entwined in the profits of private enterprise. "Lazy union workers" is a handy cover, though.

[entropyie]

Yeah, I hope you didn't read to much into my comments. I am in favor of state run utilities... Just pointing out some problems I've seen... For sure the private sector are in bed with government and have their own problems with bad staff and short term thinking.