[earlyam]

I've met too many millenials who want kids but can't afford them or the stuff you should have before you have kids to agree with you.

From what I've seen, it's lack of stable employment, stable housing and decent support system for parents. Wages have been declining relative to inflation and cost of living for a very long time, and that's for the job you get after you go into debt to get a degree which you didn't used to need.

[Isinlor]

I can show you many countries with high fertility rates where people do not even have the idea of stable employment or social benefits.

Then there are rich countries, great education, great child care facilities, government support and low fertility rates.

Rich people are busy complaining about not being able to have children. Poor people just have them.

[earlyam]

Cat's out of the bag with family planning. If we want more kids we need to make it an option that doesn't impose severe economic penalties. You have one in America and childbirth alone can bankrupt you.

[slowmovintarget]

> Cat's out of the bag with family planning.

It does seem that "family planning" is often a euphemism for planning how to avoid having a family.