[dbg31415]

I think these look great, but I can't see them replacing combustion engines for all the things people who drive trucks in the country need.

Like... I'm not going to load this up with fence posts and go out for a 12 hour day... plugging in the fence post digger to the battery... I'd be afraid that since I can't just toss in an extra gas tank that I'd be walking home.

And I can't see this pulling a horse trailer across the Great Plains stopping every 300 miles to recharge for several hours. (But I know North Dakota did finally get a Tesla charging stating!) Just feels like it's not quite setup for "real" use.

I can totally see some suburban guy using this to go camping. But... even that, like I don't want to leave this parked at the trail head for a week, when I'm hiking. I bet the battery would hold a week, but like what if it didn't? I couldn't just bum a jump from another camper.

One of the joys to being out in nature, is being away from "it all" -- including being away from the population density required to make charging stations viable. I think that's always going to be a fundamental flaw with electric "adventure" vehicles.

Cool to look at. Promising tech. But EVs are still "toys" in my mind.

[panick21_]

People still livin in a fantasy world where most trucks are used by farmers to put up fence posts. Its hilarious.

Every single stastic and analysis shows that the waste majority of truck drivers barley ever use trailer and haul stuff in the extreme minority of case. And even then they mostly haul locally.

> But EVs are still "toys" in my mind.

By that definition, most F-150 are toys.

The reality is there is a 2 million a year truck market and EV trucks are totally reasonably for 70% of that market and that is growing fast.

[dbg31415]

Look, I think that it's fair to say most people don't need trucks. If you haven't driven on a gravel road, or haven't towed anything in the last year... you don't need a truck.

But I legit spend a month a year on my family ranch... I still have relatives who live out there full time. 20,000 acres, nearest neighbor is 10 miles away, nearest gas station is 30 miles away, nearest grocery store is 70 miles away.

There aren't a lot of ranchers left, but it's not a fantasy for them. They need stuff that works. I don't know why you find that hilarious.

And for that matter... CA and TX both have energy production issues. We can't keep our homes powered during a blizzard, or during August, and I have serious doubts that adding more EVs to the grid will be sustainable.

Love to be proven wrong, but all the EVs come across as "rich man toys" to me still. Would the light stay on if everyone had a Tesla to virtue signal in?