[jlmcguire]

This is a breath of fresh air compared to the tesla approach which seems to be don't release any data that isn't biased. Waymo is being a responsible party here by releasing all this data even if some of the stuff around the waymo driver hitting roadway objects (like the parking lot bar or the shopping cart) is a little concerning.

[jjcon]

What exactly is biased about the Tesla data? If anything it is far less biased imo cause it is over a massive sample of 9 billion autopilot miles as opposed to 1 million (more than 9000x the sample size)

https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport

[kaba0]

Teslas turn off auto-pilot as soon as it finds a complicated situation, self-filtering better statistics. This also means they drive a shitton on highways, which are just simply ”easy mode”. A better statistic report would weight a mile of city driving conditions multiple times that of a mile on the highway.

[jjcon]

None of that introduces bias - that is how the system is designed to work. My car has automatic cruise control that turns off in the rain. It does that FOR safety, not to boost any statistics.

[kaba0]

Just because it was designed like that doesn’t mean that it doesn’t introduce bias.

[jjcon]

Bias suggests incomplete data or poorly sampled or manipulated - this is none of that. These are raw statistics on the functionality of a system - if you want to introduce bias to weight certain miles more than others that’s on you and you can do any analysis you want but Tesla is reporting what they should be - the raw statistics.