[aidenn0]

I have to disable hardware compositing on X11 to get a reliable desktop (and HW rendering in individual apps like firefox). I'm not sure if something similar is possible on Wayland.

[saturn_vk]

It doesn't sound like X11 is running reliably for you either

[aidenn0]

I restart X11 only when either there's a power failure longer than the battery on my UPS, or I upgrade my kernel, so it's reliable enough.

[vetinari]

Having to disable compositing doesn't sound very reliable.

[yjftsjthsd-h]

If it works, it works. And some of us never bothered installing a compositor in the first place, so it's hardly a high bar.

[vetinari]

Obviously it doesn't work if your workaround is disabling it. It is either bad hardware, or buggy driver. For the latter, it has to be some obscure hardware; popular hardware would have it fixed.

[yjftsjthsd-h]

Okay, let's enumerate.

Option 1: Wants to used hardware acceleration, fails, allows you to disable it and actually use your computer.

Option 2: Wants to use hardware acceleration, fails, refuses to allow you to disable anything, literally cannot display graphics.

One of these works, even degraded. The other does not.

[aidenn0]

Not obscure, just old. ATI Radeon HD 5000 series.

[kaba0]

That doesn’t depend on the protocol, I think most implementations can simply choose a so-called “dumb” backend instead of hardware composition.