[yawpitch]

Apparently you _also_ have a need to imagine, supply, or interject negation where none exists…

A member of any (and especially all) of those groups _knows_ that it’s “OK” to be a member; considerably more than OK, actually, as the default privilege assigned to those characteristics by the rigging of the game makes it _vastly_ easier to be one of those haves rather than one of the have-nots — as always, membership has its privileges.

For anyone _not_ a member, they _also_ know it’s OK to be a member… moreover, they _know_ precisely what it means when a member (entirely disingenuously) asks them the (idiot) question, “is it OK to be [what you’re not]?” while grinning with anticipation of being able to turn back to their fellow members and feign injury and victimization _regardless_ of the answer.

In short, no, there’s nothing wrong with being any of those things, except possibly having a default further distance to travel in the pursuit of not being an asshole.

[realjhol]

> A member of any (and especially all) of those groups _knows_ that it’s “OK” to be a member; considerably more than OK, actually, as the default privilege assigned to those characteristics by the rigging of the game makes it _vastly_ easier to be one of those haves rather than one of the have-nots — as always, membership has its privileges.

It's the original sin of White people. It doesn't matter what they've done, what challenges they've faced, where in the world they live, what their actual ethnic group or nationality is, what their class or income status is etc. etc. - none of that matters.

Only one thing matters: skin colour, and if yours is wrong, then you're "privaleged" (even if you live in a trailer park).

No - your toxic politics of envy and resentment are best ignored entirely.

> while grinning with anticipation of being able to turn back to their fellow members and feign injury and victimization

No. The point is to unmask your hypocricy. You don't actually have a problem with racism pe se - because it's OK when you do it.

You're not here to make anything better or fix anything. The fact that "It's OK to be white" presents such a problem to you, simply demonstrates that this is all just a tool to punish the chuds - once you strip back the mental gymnastics, that's really all your ideology amounts to.

[yawpitch]

> It's the original sin of White people. It doesn't matter what they've done, what challenges they've faced, where in the world they live, what their actual ethnic group or nationality is, what their class or income status is etc. etc. - none of that matters.

No, it fundamentally doesn’t… because, no matter where they go in the world, irregardless of all of their own (real, or imagined) hardship, when they arrive they _will_ be treated better than a non-white person that is otherwise of the same socio-economic standing arriving from the same origin point… and that’s just an observable fact, one I’ve seen with my own two eyes all around the world, and that simple, reliably true fact exists simply because it’s not the original sin of the white people of today, it’s the legacy of the white people of centuries ago, and the systemic biases they absolutely developed and, just as absolutely, left behind, and which we’re responsible for dismantling and discarding today.

> you're "privileged" (even if you live in a trailer park).

Yes, you are. And, having spent the first years of my life in just such a trailer park, surrounded by other trash, I can assure you that EVERY white person in that trailer park knows VERY certainly there’s worse colors of trash to be. A trailer isn’t much of a platform to look down from, but a lot of white folk in trailers still find a way.

> No - your toxic politics of envy and resentment are best ignored entirely.

I neither envy nor resent any living being… there are quite a few I’m repulsed by. Most of them can’t acknowledge the simple fact that those who deny the concept of privilege the hardest are always and only those who rely on it the most.

> The point is to unmask your hypocricy.

Even if that were the word, you’d have to actually succeed at finding it to unmask it. Thou hast not.

> You don't actually have a problem with racism pe se - because it's OK when you do it.

It’s OK to be racist. We’re ALL racist… the point is to be less so than you were the day before, and ideally less so than the other guy. Good luck with that, and the chip on your shoulder.

> You're not here to make anything better or fix anything.

Oh, I’m _trying_… some people just want to stay broke.

> The fact that "It's OK to be white" presents such a problem to you

It presents no problem to me whatsoever… it’s just humorous to see those who are predisposed to culture wars try to invent one.

[realjhol]

> No, it fundamentally doesn’t… because, no matter where they go in the world, irregardless of all of their own (real, or imagined) hardship, when they arrive they _will_ be treated better than a non-white person that is otherwise of the same socio-economic standing arriving from the same origin point… and that’s just an observable fact,

You utter clown. My wife and I lived in the US for three years. My wife - who is black, was always treated with kindness and respect by everyone we met - people of all persuasions. We made many good friends, who we are still in contact with to this day.

> It’s OK to be racist. We’re ALL racist…

I'm not. I adore my wife, and my two mixed-race children, my wife's whole side of the family, and all her friends.

From what I can see, all of this is just projection on your part.

They would be offended by your condecending and divisive ideas.

[yawpitch]

> I'm not.

Yes, you are. We ALL are… it’s not possible for a human being born in our moment of our species’ collective history, nor one born at any earlier moment, to not be racist, any more than it is for them to not be prone to sexism, nationalism, ableism, or for that matter just simple confirmation bias. We simply aren’t far enough removed from very recent — never mind still ongoing — atrocities committed solely on skin-color bias for the relatively small number among us who have actively engaged in what was until very recently criminalized miscegenation to claim to be free of tribalism. You’ll know you’ve stopped being racist when you and your wife and your children don’t even have a term for the differences between you, and never have had one… not a moment sooner.

[realjhol]

> You’ll know you’ve stopped being racist when you and your wife and your children don’t even have a term for the differences between you, and never have had one… not a moment sooner.

What a ridiculous idea. There is literally nothing humans have ever percieved - or will ever perceive that doesn't have a term associated with it.

Also, your Whig historiography is manfestly untrue. Humans are fundamentally the same creatures as we ever were and always will be. History is cyclical.

If you want racial unity, then my family is just about as good as it gets. If you want racial harmony, then your desperate searching for grievances where there are none is just about the least helpful thing you could do.

But I suspect you know this already.

I used to think that the "anti-racists" were well intentioned, but simply misguided. It's clear now that there's nothing well intentioned about them - it's just about distilling grievances into power, and about the pleasure of seeing one's self as "one of the good ones".

[yawpitch]

> Humans are fundamentally the same creatures as we ever were and always will be.

Thank you for admitting that all humans are racist.

> History is cyclical.

Nothing whatsoever about history implies this to be true, but assuming it is gives me good reason to keep an eye out for future members of the Einsatzgruppen.