[najra]

Here in the Netherlands more and more companies (particularly small and young companies) will actually just measure output (vs just say they do as long as you warm your chair 40 hours a week). So they don't think me working less is better, but they also don't care as long as my work is done.

[Maximus9000]

How do you measure output of a software developer? Any measurement I've seen ([1] except the devops ones) just get gamed and become useless.

[1] https://www.atlassian.com/devops/frameworks/devops-metrics

[e12e]

The irony here is that "40 hour week of 'productive' work" is also gamed/wrong...

I think, given the right culture, other measures might work well. Not perhaps for a bonus structure, but for helping employees honestly evaluate how they're doing.

[commandlinefan]

> get gamed and become useless

... and devolve into (actually measurable) number of hours in the chair.

[jobs_throwaway]

How do they measure output?