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by rektide 1207 days ago
RCS will let anyone react with an emoji[1], which is like 95% of what people want/need/use. But ironically, the non-standard proprietary iPhone users all think everyone else is the problem, even though them & their phone is the non-partcipatory jank holding us back.

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/23/23475819/google-messages...
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zinekeller 1207 days ago
Sadly, Google have co-opted to run RCS (https://jibe.google.com/) and most people have now serious doubts if Google will ruin messaging again like how they ruined Hangouts. In all of this time, Apple maintained iMessage with not much fanfare so I am not surprised that most people just shrugged Google's campaign: everyone is tired of Google's irrationality.

Also the US carriers are only "supporting" RCS because they have no choice in the manner - Google pushed it hard. Imagine if Google have pulled the plug, would the carriers still maintain it?

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pietro72ohboy 1207 days ago
> Sadly, Google have co-opted to run RCS (https://jibe.google.com/) and most people have now serious doubts if Google will ruin messaging again like how they ruined Hangouts.

Even though there’s nuance to this (RCS is a standard but Google’s running their own server with E2E extensions), this statement is a common ruse to deflect the blame onto Google. All modern instant messaging services are centralised. This entire “Google runs RCS” debate is a straw man to deflect blame onto Google. Meanwhile, Apple is the party that doesn’t want anyone plugging into its walled garden.

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zinekeller 1206 days ago
> All modern instant messaging services are centralised. This entire “Google runs RCS” debate is a straw man to deflect blame onto Google. Meanwhile, Apple is the party that doesn’t want anyone plugging into its walled garden.

And this is precisely why. If RCS services were being operated by any other company, even Amazon, there isn't that problem of "what if Google pulled this out again" and RCS might be more palatable to the point that Apple will be forced to integrate it. Instead, Google pushed RCS out because they knew that they screwed up Hangouts hard.

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kotaKat 1206 days ago
Everyone ran an SMSC (and MMSC) just fine. There was no "centralized" messaging in cellular telephony in the past, just loosely linked carriers.

Until now, where suddenly Google seems to be the only RCS operator in town because hardly any carriers want to run their own RCS infrastructure.

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