[jaynetics]

Thank goodness edge's market share is very low in these countries. About 2% for Moldova [1].

For MSFT, this is a huge embarrassment, reminiscent of Google's infamous "project dragonfly".

And they deleted your inquiry on their forums for "violating the community guidelines"! Not exactly PR geniuses, are they?

[1] https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/all/moldova

[AdrenalinMd]

I wonder how accurate those numbers are about Edge. As 79.48% of desktop users in Moldova are on Windows 10 and Windows 11. [1]

Microsoft Edge is the default web browser on Windows 10, Windows 11. [2]

Meaning at a huge amount of population will see Yandex when they search for something at least for the first time. Unless they install another browser immediately or change the default search engine.

And yes, I wasn't expecting to see my inquiry deleted on their forum. I'm posting again without the screenshot. In case they didn't like what Yandex returns as results (which is weird, as it is their "business partner").

I'm also very humbled by the support of the hacker news community. As a long time lurker, it warms my heart a lot to see so much support. I hope it reaches Microsoft.

[1] https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/d...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Edge#Features

[lockhouse]

Defaults don't matter as much as we all pretend they do.

For the decade that Internet Explorer sucked basically all computer users got programmed to treat it like a Chrome/Firefox downloader. Most users don't know that Edge is Microsoft flavored Chrome now, so they continue to use Edge to download other browsers and move on with their lives.

This is an unpopular opinion, but IE4 and especially IE5 were significantly better than what Mozilla/Netscape were putting out at the time. This is what grew their marketshare more than the bundling that everyone focused on. Then Microsoft sat on IE6 for years and let it fall way behind everyone else. IE7 was basically IE6 with tabs. By the time they began investing in their own browser again it was largely too late.

[sidibe]

It's bizarre that the nixed Project Dragonfly is a considered a bigger embarrassment than Bing working continuously to this day in China.

[jaynetics]

I made the comparison with Dragonfly because they had special features planned to make users more easily identifiable for the PRC government, thus the similarity with this MSFT/Yandex situation.

Are you aware of Bing doing anything like this? (I think it's bad enough that they take part in censorship, don't get me wrong.)

[sidibe]

Whatever Google was doing with Dragonfly was to comply and gain re-entry to China, we can assume Bing has to do whatever Google was supposed to do.

[onlyrealcuzzo]

Edge is so irrelevant, that you have to wonder why everyone's obsessing with MS's recent moves with it.

It's <5% (and decreasing, still pretty quickly).

[pessimizer]

> It's <5% (and decreasing, still pretty quickly).

How many tens of millions of irrelevant users does that represent?

[onlyrealcuzzo]

5% and shrinking is 5% and shrinking.

If you start with a gigantic number - even 0.1% of is going to still be gigantic.

It doesn't make it really matter in the grand scheme of things.