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by eropple 1213 days ago
Respectfully, I don't think you can blame the US for electing Tories who are swerving towards the cliff.

Boris Johnson wasn't our doing. Brexit wasn't our doing. Neither was the cavalcade of morons to follow.

We do plenty of dumb and awful things, but this is self-imposed.
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ClapperHeid 1213 days ago 

  >Respectfully, I don't think you can blame the US for electing Tories who are swerving towards the cliff...
No. I don't blame the US for Brexit or the Tories. But, as if those were not bad enough, there are the endless foreign policy decisions where the UK just immediately follows whatever the US does, even if it is economically suicidal.
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avianlyric 1213 days ago
> endless foreign policy decisions where the UK just immediately follows whatever the US does

That more the result of stupidity and Napoleon syndrome than some magic hold the US has over the UK. The UK, in particular our government, still wants to believe we're a geopolitically important country capable of projecting power and influencing the world. While there's some small element of truth in that belief, our actual relevance on the world stage is far small than our government wishes it was, and is only getting smaller thanks to wonderful incompetence of past 10 years of government.

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ineedasername 1213 days ago
Stop electing the people who follow them. Either way, it’s not the fault of the US if the UK acts as a vassal state.
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ClapperHeid 1213 days ago 

  >Either way, it’s not the fault of the US if the UK acts as a vassal state...
Maybe not totally. But history is litttered with unfortunate "happenings" to countries which refused to ask 'How high? when the US said 'Jump!'

It's only in the US and amongst a self-deluding swathe of British society that this "relationship" is seen as one of equals. The reality is that we're sucking up to the playground bully because we've seen what he does to the kids who won't hand over their dinner money. And we're trying to kid ourselves we're best buddies.

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dane-pgp 1212 days ago
> Stop electing the people who follow them.

To be fair, most voters in the UK didn't vote for the current government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_United_Kingdom_general_el...

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andsoitis 1213 days ago
> UK just immediately follows whatever the US does, even if it is economically suicidal.

What is a good example?

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ClapperHeid 1213 days ago 

  >> UK just immediately follows whatever the US does, even if it is economically suicidal.

  >>What is a good example?
Well, the best example is playing out in Eastern Europe at the minute.

But there are plenty of others, including needlessly antagonising China and sabotaging our previously beneficial economic relations, because the US is spoiling for a fight with China. Ergo UK must do likewise.

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