[wpietri]

Yeah, if you take $7m from YC and Kleiner Perkins, it is definitely not a charity operation: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/oven/company_financi...

It's a little concerning to me when something's commercial nature is so far in the background like this. I guess I've had too many years of, "Surprise, our business model is you!"

[paxys]

What's the surprise exactly? Deno works the same way, as do hundreds of other companies that give out an open source version of their software for free and provide hosting and support as paid services.

[wpietri]

One difference is that Deno, and presumably those hundreds of other companies, have a pricing page. Whereas bun could easily be mistaken for just another open-source project.

[paxys]

They don't have a pricing page because there is nothing to price yet.

[doodlesdev]

That's exactly their point.

[paxys]

What's their point? That they should not be open source? Or should not be allowed to ever launch a paid product? Or be forced to add a pricing page that...goes nowhere?

[doodlesdev]

The point is that Deno has already a plan to monetize and they haven't, which puts a lot of doubt into if they will ever manage to and whether that will affect existing projects which rely on the runtime.

[wpietri]

My point is that they could be transparent about the fact that they're collecting users along the way to extracting money from them. They chose not to. That's concerning to me. Possible explanations include "they have no idea what they're doing" and "they know exactly what they're doing but think people won't like it".

As the rest of your hyperventilation, no, none of those are my points, and I think you were smart enough to figure that out without me having to say so.

[ilrwbwrkhv]

Wow didn't know they took a loan of $7 million dollars. That is an insane amount for a runtime without market adoption. Another one of those 2021 VC play I guess.