[dagmx]

you reversed my sentence. I didn’t say everyone who was up in arms was anti-woke, I said anti-woke people were up in arms.

That’s not a label I’m applying to them without their consent. It’s a term they use themselves as a matter of pride.

I did also mention that other people found it odd too, which was meant to imply that nobody was really for this change.

[wara23arish]

I guess the crux of what Im saying is

can you be up in arms but not be considered anti-woke?

I get what you’re trying to say, I just wonder how many people decided not to be up in arms about this and other subjects similar to this and decided to keep quiet so they would not be considered anti-woke.

I say this cause in my work env, people are heavily pushing language shift recommendations and it seems like nobody dares speak up about it (me included) to stay polite/be considered part of the good ones. But in reality most people are not for the change at all.

And it’s usually a minority of people pushing for changes like this.

[yamazakiwi]

At the end of the day it sounds like you're trying to do what you think is right but are worried about becoming a pariah. These conversations can be hard because they're built upon core feelings about human behavior and what is "better" for us.

If the problem is that you want to have a thoughtful conversation about an issue but are worried about being labelled, first identify if being thoughtful or critical is the what the group wants or has the propensity to do. If you're lucky then you will be around people willing to have a discussion and can frame a lot of the conversation around you filling in your understanding (when in fact you're trying to get others to start thinking critically). Asking a lot of questions about the results of outcomes is also a great way to stop people from auto-piloting into popular opinions.

[dagmx]

“Up in Arms” implies a furor about the response. The definition is “protesting vigorously”.

It seems like you’re conflating objecting to something with being up in arms about it.

A reasoned objection is very different than the over the top reaction from some people, even on here, saying “wokeness is the end of literary freedom etc”. Analyzing it on a case by case basis vs jumping to extreme conclusions based on one’s biases.