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by upsidesinclude 1215 days ago
Only you are making things up and I'm not.

The Leninist policies are considered to have cost in the ballpark of 30 million lives. In the Tsarist rule ~1500 people were executed in a year at the extreme. In the communist days 1500 were killed in a day, but every day for 30 years.

The Moaists are considered to have killed 50 million.

"Capitalist Exploitation" - you mean businesses doing business?

Do you believe people will be exploited less under a different economic system? Why do you believe that?

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> The Leninist policies are considered to have cost in the ballpark of 30 million lives.

[citation needed].

If you are considering transitory economic policies to be a condemnation of a whole economic and social system, then let me tell you about the Indian famines that regularly killed tens of millions of people on India, in a capitalist system, under the rule of a capitalist country (Great Britain). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_major_famines_in_I...

So there you have it, definite proof of the consequences of capitalist policies.

> The Moaists are considered to have killed 50 million.

Again, you can't just make numbers out your ass. Do you actually think that communists ordered the killing of 50 million people? Do you think that communists are just evil maniacs who like to kill people because communism means wanting to kill people? Are you really that ignorant or indoctrinated?

Maybe is projection. More than 1 million people were killed in Indonesia for the "crime" of being communists or communist sympathizers. The United States (a capitalist country) supported, financed, and celebrated those killings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_19...

When anti-communists talk about "mass killings," it's all about projection: it was YOUR policies, not the communists', that killed millions of people. So they need to project onto others the crimes that capitalism is guilty of.

> Do you believe people will be exploited less under a different economic system? Why do you believe that?

Capitalism brought us to the point where we are now, on the brink of WW3, facing extinction from climate change, a demographic crisis in most countries of the world, pollution and contamination like never before, and the exploitation of millions of human beings so the top 0.1% can be more wealthy. Capitalism is not able to solve any of the existential and humanitarian crises that exist because it is the CAUSE of those problems. And the capitalist class profits from them. So yes, either we do a revolution and overthrow the capitalist class, or we face extinction, quite literally.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communis...

Wake up. Do you know what one revolution gets you? Back to where you started! But you cant see that, because its always someone else in the way of your success... the monarchs, the capitalist, the educated (said Pol Pot). Yes these pesky groups always keep you down and therefore they must be overthrown!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

Communists doing communist things, always thinking they know best.