[babypuncher]

Are you arguing that cheaters should be allowed to run rampant in multiplayer games purely because that is how they want to use their software? Because at that point, there is no reason to even have multiplayer games.

[aaomidi]

Honestly the solution to this is to have

1. Self hosted servers. Let communities do their own moderation.

2. As part of #1, cheating/sandbox lobbies.

[babypuncher]

I get the desire to go back to community hosted servers, but there are real tangible benefits to modern matchmaking systems, particularly for games with a competitive focus.

[aaomidi]

I want options tbh, not one solution fits all.

[andybak]

Absolutely not.

I must be honest, I don't particularly care about competitive multiplayer but I do hate cheats and griefers.

But I don't like overly broad bans based on flawed heuristics either. Or restrictions on software that I "own" and want to use in sensible ways.