[bluecalm]

Do you know any programmers who think it's cool to work for German car companies or that they at least offer a decent pay? I think that's the answer: those traditional German industries don't care nor understand IT. These days and entry level KIA has better software than a BMW (I owned several BMWs from different eras and will not buy anything from them again).

[jacquesm]

BMW is just plain embarrassing. A long time colleague was a huge fan of the brand, he'd buy pretty much all of their top of the line models one after the other. Some of them were so often in the shop with software issues that he ended up getting attached to the replacement vehicles :)