[rudolph9]

I think OPs point is people tendency to use LEDs in way that is bad for melatonin production is not the same as LEDs being inherently bad for melatonin production as the title suggests.

Many LEDs have fine color spectrum and brightness setting and people should take those capabilities into mind when purchasing, especially for lights they will be using in the evening. Personally I’ve invested in hue lights and have them configured to dim and redshift as bedtime approaches.

[forgetfreeman]

Right but this is a false dichotomy, LEDs are both inherently bad AND put to uses that enhances their detrimental characteristics.

[ilyt]

Uh, just no. LED lighting have modes of working that can be bad. You just need to be way more picky and knowledgable with LED lights which is hard for most customers, vs "just buy an incandesent bulb"

[forgetfreeman]

Nice "well actually" there. So is the proposal consumers perform their own spectrographic tests before making a purchase or can we just go with "leds are bad" given the overwhelming majority of the products available on the market demonstrate harmful characteristics with no clear way of discerning which are the outliers at time of purchase?

[ilyt]

> Nice "well actually" there.

Learn to fucking read. I literally outlined problem in my comment:

> You just need to be way more picky and knowledgable with LED lights which is hard for most customers

And literally wrote that it is a problem to most customers.

So "well actually" fuck off

[forgetfreeman]

So you start with just no and then proceed to argue my point for me? Weird flex but ok. Anyway it's nice to see the quality of discourse hasn't degraded on HN over the years.