[phyphy]

I sometimes wonder what the future of human rights is considering a scenario from 10 generations from now.

The survived miners will probably have children. The children who are not fit (neither physically nor mentally) will die working in mines. The mentally fit children will migrate to US. The physically fit children will have more children that are physically fit. What will happen then? Why are we ignoring the future of our species and human rights on a larger scale of time?

[knodi123]

What, like Morlocks and Eloi? I suppose it's an interesting idea to contemplate, but planning to avoid it is a textbook example of premature optimization. We have a million bigger problems that could wipe us out long before that becomes a risk, even with the wild presumption that the conditions in SA stay the same for 10 generations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morlock

[georgeglue1]

Human migration (under various situations / stresses like famines) has been studied in economics, sociology, etc..

There are also studies about generational poverty, medical literature on helping people recover from traumatic conditions, etc..

Not to read any bad intent in your comment, but there also have been studies about social darwinism that have a long track record of problems. I think people do still do studies about genetic inheritance etc., but it's probably impossible to draw society-level conclusions without data.

[gowld]

> Why are we ignoring the future of our species and human rights on a larger scale of time?

Because we like money.

[ElevenLathe]

Are you saying it's actually good to abuse people because it makes the gene pool stronger in some abstract way?

[phyphy]

No I am just wondering why is this largely ignored

[GalenErso]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

Outside of a few wealthy democratic enclaves, the world is largely a place where the rule of law means the rule of the strongest, where human rights don't exist, and where everything and everyone can be bought for the right price. This includes international waters.

[concordDance]

Because thinking of human evolution leads to all sorts of horrifying thoughts and those kind of timescales can be ignored given the rapidly approaching spectre of AGI or even just human genetic engineering.

[ElevenLathe]

It's ignored because it's horrifically inhumane and also probably not even true. If you earnestly have this thought, I urge you to seek help from a psychiatrist.

[ericmcer]

I don't think he was saying it is good that "unfit" children die in mines, that would be a pretty horrific assertion.

I think he is just wondering why we don't consider the impact of immigration on genetic diversity. If we have nations that have huge immigrant populations and nations that have huge numbers migrating away from them it would have an interesting impact on genetic diversity. There are a range of traits that influence whether someone would migrate from a place or stay where they were born. I don't think pondering the effects of that requires a psychiatrist.

[antihipocrat]

There are and have been more enlightened places on earth where rules are in place that limit the abuse of strength, but rule by strength & violence has been the norm for all of human history.

Note that even in more enlightened places, the ultimate tool for enforcement and coercion is still strength, and the state has a monopoly on the use of this.

[hammock]

“Hard times make hard men, hard men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make hard times”

[xabotage]

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