[latchkey]

No. That isn't negotiation, it is extortion.

"Pay me more, because I got a higher offer somewhere else."

It is a threat and employers shouldn't be forced to respond to threats like that. It isn't negotiation, it is a demand. How about instead of doing it that way, you say something like: "The salary you offered is lower than I expected. Here is what I expect and these are the benefits I'll bring to your organization."

It also sets a bad tone from the start. What else will the employee like to threaten on in the future? If I don't have the same coffee machine that Meta uses... will they quit on me? Where do you draw the line?

This is also why the newer laws around wages are focused on being upfront about what the wage is in the job description. I'm all for that. Don't apply for jobs that are paying less than your expectation.

[kentm]

No it's not extortion. The employer isn't forced to hire or raise the salary; they could just tell them "Good luck at Meta." They're just negotiating from a position of strength, and for some reason you don't like that.

> How about instead of doing it that way, you say something like: "The salary you offered is lower than I expected. Here is what I expect and these are the benefits I'll bring to your organization."

Because thats not effective. When employers have the upper hand, they're perfectly willing to say "Take the offer or go pound sand." Do you happen to think thats extortion?

[latchkey]

> Because thats not effective.

It absolutely is effective, I've used it myself many times.

[p0pcult]

Negotiation isn't extortion. No prospective employer is being extorted. There are no consequences for failing to agree.

[latchkey]

> There are no consequences for failing to agree.

Exactly why I said... "I'd say good luck and enjoy working for Zuck!"

[p0pcult]

That part is fine, but you are also whining about the negotiation process and calling it extortion. You are also implying thay the prospective employee is doing something untoward, which they are not.

[latchkey]

> the prospective employee is doing something untoward

"waste their time, drag my feet, and use their offers to increase my salary offerings at other companies"

Yes, they are. The person is wasting Meta's time in order to increase their salary offerings at other companies. That's gross and that's what I'm reacting to.