[Hellion]

It’s vastly more complicated than “apple opens an api”. iMessage does a lot more than just messaging, and key components of apples spam and fraud story are tied to individual devices.

For Apple to open iMessage, would require that android manufacturers enroll the devices.

I use an iPhone, and I try to get all my friends to use signal

[ryan93]

By her own admission she was on an unimportant part of the project when she joined in 1965. She was recorded working on completely unrelated stuff in 63. When she was actually promoted to leadership the work was already done

[warning26]

I like that Signal is open source, but I dislike their insistence on shutting down third party clients, because I believe third party clients are almost universally better than first-party ones.

In addition, their continued reluctance to add an export or any kind of meaningful history backup is also a negative.

[Hellion]

The chat landscape is dire. I view Signal as a least bad option for my friends to use.

[kaba0]

I think telegram is a great tradeoff. Not as secure (by default it is not even e2e), but their clients on every platform are just slick and very great.

[HKH2]

Yep, they've started nagging for donations too. Signal, no means no.

[Hellion]

You can just not donate.