[apienx]

“Freedom is the only worthy goal in life. It is won by disregarding things that lie beyond our control." -- Epictetus

In 2023, I think we can achieve a level of control that's incomprehensible to Epictetus. The goal is to maximize equanimity, freedom, and control over one's time/destiny. Money can get you quite far on that path. I sometimes feel that Massimo's just bitter at the success of people like Ryan Holiday (who just took Massimo's work and "packaged" it).

P.S. Warmly recommend this lecture about Marcus Aurelius (a classic): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Auuk1y4DRgk

[ljw1001]

Everything that matters, including how much money you have, but more importantly when you and the people you love become sick or die accidentally is governed by chance.

If you think money gets you a pass, maybe recheck your understanding of the issues and the stoic solution. The shallow packaged version produced by Ryan Holiday isn’t a good source

[VieEnCode]

Ryan Holiday is one of the best examples of the type that seeks to turn these ideas into a kind of prosperity gospel for grindset bros.

He has a history of being a BS merchant [1]: he's just found a new angle as a self-help guru.

[1] https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2012/telling-the-t...

[tacitusarc]

I expected to read that and find Holiday to be some kind of terrible human but I came out of it with an appreciation of what he was doing, despite the author’s clear intent to paint him in a bad light.