[ravel-bar-foo]

After a scandal in our institution with medical professors publishing in pay-for-play journals, we were required to take an ethics class. Our PI scheduled this for 10 am, and not knowing better I booked an hour of time and brought a notebook.

The presentation was two slides. The title slide was presented, and then a content slide was presented. Professor's lecture on ethics was, in its entirety, "You guys know enough not to be unethical. Don't be unethical." We pretended to be learning from the second slide while someone took a picture to present to administrators, and the ethics class was dismissed. I had 55 minutes of my hour left.

Unethically completing an ethics class was one of the most ironic experiences I've ever had.

[zadler]

I’d be the dude calling it out right there in the lecture and getting fired for misbehavior…

[ravel-bar-foo]

What would your goal be in calling it out? Admin mandated ethics training, so it is either going to happen or it is going to "happen".

Professor is not getting grants to make research ethics slides, so he's not going to do it. The group needs a volunteer, but everyone else is already busy with assigned tasks. Would you volunteer to run the ethics training and do it properly?

[zadler]

> Would you volunteer to run the ethics training and do it properly?

Yea but I doubt they'd have me. I'm just a disruptive individual. With regards to the question of why I would make a scene in the lecture, it's because of the contradiction of agreeing to be ethical and at the same time walking out of the ethics lecture knowing it was meaningless. It's the complicity in society that leads us to being led by a bunch of fucking jellyfish.

[BeFlatXIII]

Sounds like it was an exercise in compliance box-ticking. It’s like an honest DEI seminar.