[mashygpig]

Definitely agree. Christopher Alexander's "A City Is Not A Tree" [0] speaks to this separation too in the context of our physical spaces (based on your comment I sense you may be familiar with this idea). It feels that western society promotes separation by default.

[0] http://en.bp.ntu.edu.tw/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/06-Alexan...

[detourdog]

I learned of him a year or so ago and bought:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_on_the_Synthesis_of_Form

My memory is that it rang so true I didn't need to read it. I'm knee deep(decades)in trying to define an aesthetic for "Technology" so that it can be judged as a media. To put it another way a process for judging technical implementations based on universal human needs.

I will check out your reference.

[mashygpig]

That's neat and makes me feel that if you independently came to similar thoughts then there is some universal thing here to uncover/define. Would be interested to hear more about your thoughts/journey if you have them written up somewhere!

[detourdog]

I'm a big believer that humans share a social sub-conconcsious. The ideas I'm sure come from a long Train of utopian modernist designers ideals.

Funny enough I think I finally cracked something critical last week here.

https://boards.core77.com/t/how-does-one-measure-the-aesthet...

I have been practicing sharing ideas on HN and Core77 in effort to start an honest effort.