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by thomaskcr 1216 days ago
I like that we're arguing over the word "recall" being an issue when the system it applies to is called "full self driving". I think calling a level 2 driver assistance system "full self driving" is a much bigger inaccuracy.
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abudabi123 1216 days ago
Rebrand the "full self driving" marketing to "driver assist optimist".
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futuroptimist 1216 days ago
To play devil's advocate, it's only a misleading label when the word "Beta" is omitted.
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insanitybit 1216 days ago
Not really. If someone says "Full self driving beta" I'm thinking "The goal is full self driving, the current approach should deliver full self driving, beta means that it requires some tweaks and testing".
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yazzku 1216 days ago
Nobody outside of tech understands it this way. "Full Self-Driving Beta" is a marketing stunt that borders on fraud. These cars can't drive themselves for shit, they're not even in beta.
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jim0266 1215 days ago
You own/owned a Tesla with FSD Beta, right? You have driven it extensively to see and understand its capabilities and how it's improved, right? I've driven FSD Beta now for more than a year. Based on my experience you have no clue about which are speaking.
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insanitybit 1216 days ago
You've misunderstood me. I agree with you.
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yazzku 1216 days ago
Oh, ok, yes I did.
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Natsu 1216 days ago
> I'm thinking "The goal is full self driving, the current approach should deliver full self driving, beta means that it requires some tweaks and testing".

And that "bugs" involve accidents.

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KMnO4 1216 days ago
Reminds me of an old joke about Ford vs Microsoft. We seem to have come full circle. Abridged version:

> At a computer expo, Bill Gates compared the computer industry with the auto industry and stated, 'If Ford had kept up with technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving $25 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon.'

> In response to Bill's comments, Ford issued a press release stating:

> “Sure, but would you want to drive a car that for no reason whatsoever would crash twice a day?”

https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/lounge-10/microsoft-vs-ford-...

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kelnos 1216 days ago
"Beta" just means there are likely to be bugs, not that the intention isn't (level 4/5) "full self-driving".
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