[IshKebab]

Google's office tools are much nicer than Microsoft's web ones. I'd say they even give the desktop versions a run for their money.

And Meet is amazing. The only video conferencing system I've used that actually works reliably. I recently moved from a company using Zoom to one using Meet and the difference is insane. Makes a step difference to the quality of remote work.

I presume they can do it because Google owns their own global network and they can use high QoS on it for Meet data.

[pottertheotter]

That's so interesting. We have Workspace at work but we have bought Zoom licenses for several us because we find Meet to be a much worse experience. We're now considering buying Zoom licenses for everyone at the company.

I also find Google Sheets to be inferior to Excel, and we have Office licenses for myself and a few others that use spreadsheets.

The only thing I think is good with Workspace is Gmail and Calendar. Everything else is kind of meh.

[IshKebab]

How did you find Meet to be worse? They're broadly similar in terms of UI and features (but Meet is definitely slicker). The main difference I've found is that Zoom cuts out way more than Meet. In fairness when it does cut out it has a nicer recovery mechanism - it replays what the person said at like 3x speed so you usually still get to hear what they said. Meet doesn't do that. But Meet is still way better because it very rarely cuts out in the first place, whereas Zoom is just the classic "sorry could you repeat that" video conferencing experience that everyone expects.

[partiallypro]

As someone who has worked under both in an enterprise environment, I am going to have to strongly disagree. Google's office tools are great if you aren't doing anything worth much of anything, as soon as you need to do something complex it turns into complete garbage. Every company I've worked for that used GSuite has had to also buy Office licenses because Google Docs and Sheets simply couldn't keep up. Google Docs also has a notorious reputation to screw up PDFs and DOCX file formatting.

I used to have Google Hangouts/Meet problems all the time, but it was fine, I've never cared for Zoom in general. Google's slide deck program is fine, but that's largely just because...who cares about slides? Most people aren't paying much attention to them, and they are just meeting filler.

I do prefer Gmail's interface to Outlook's though. Outlook tries to do too much. It's definitely better than it used to be, but there are some very crucial annoyances.

[szundi]

As soon as you are starting to do some hardcore tables with lots of real business logic, peope around me tend to start liking Excel better.

[IshKebab]

Honestly I think if you reach the limits of Google Sheets you should not be using a spreadsheet.

[prepend]

I like Microsoft is a better value as you also get desktop versions of word and excel that are better than the browser based versions. This is particular helpful with outlook.