[gxc33]

'full self driving' is an even more incorrect term, then, if you want to be pedantic. if the car mfg takes zero liability/accountability, then it is zero self-driving.

you can, in fact, 'recall' software. this is semantically accurate description of what is happening.

[Sparyjerry]

It's a full self driving 'beta' though, it's literally in the name that it isn't final and doesn't have the bugs worked out. You also have to opt in to it.

[gxc33]

Wait is your argument adjectives can only be applied to Tesla marketing terms, and not to other English words?

What do you think “FSD recall” or “software recall” means

Tesla released software that can kill people. It must do a FSD recall

This is not the same as Apple doing an OS update, not mandated by a regulatory body because it could kill someone

I was hit by a driver not paying attention. I had to get two surgeries, was not allowed to stand for 9 months, spent another year just rehabbing my nervous system and learning to walk. I still can’t jump or run

Tesla released software it’s marketing as “full self driving” that is not even Level 2 Alpha! Full Self Driving implies a level 5 system.

Tesla’s software has disclaimers like “may not behave as expected in sunlight”. Even its AutoPilot has these disclaimers.

It constantly claims FSD makes drivers safer. Yet it’s non transparent with its data, the data & comparisons it does release is completely misleading to the point of fraud, comparing apples to oranges. The cars it’s released on public roads to untrained drivers runs through intersections (it’s all over YouTube) and fails all kinds of basic driving tests. Tesla accepts ZERO responsibility if someone is killed while FSD is activated… that’s how little confidence it has in its own product

This is a product that can maim and kill humans, ruin people’s entire lives… and your response is incoherent mumbling about adjectives ?

Any person who is majorly confused by what a “software recall” is… or can’t figure out what this FSD recall means for them, shouldn’t be beta testing a 2-ton machine on public roads. They shouldn’t be driving period.

[Sparyjerry]

I disagree, you are making one interpretation of what "Full Self Driving Beta" means to everyone, as if everyone using a beta, they have to opt-in, and purchase, and have a good driving record (indicating they understand the rules of the road), is only looking at it like a headline article they don't read. 'You imagine everyone is dumb and you are the only smart person who looks beyond the name of something. You are the one caught up in the marketing yourself while the people actually making the decisions to spend their money on this and opt in are the ones actually looking into its. You claim that they take no responsibility is incorrect as they offer their own insurance if so chosen. If insurance companies don't want to cover it, they can easily just not cover Teslas but that isn't happening. Insurance companies still cover it because Tesla is safer than other vehicles. "Full Self Driving" doesn't mean perfect driving, it means as good or better than the average human and that bar is not that hard to pass.