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by candiddevmike 1221 days ago
What are you going to do, move to a different service? Switching out your cloud hosted office suite is probably a non starter for most companies.
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Moving from GSuite to M365 is a fairly popular move. Consulting companies build around this service.
Much much MUCH easier said than done, especially if you've co-mingled your Google for Apps/G-Suite/Workspace account with other Google services.

Migrating contacts and calendars is easy, thanks to open standards (unless you're migrating in bulk)

Migrating email and validating the migration is a HUGE pain and takes forever.

Data from any other Google service is basically unusable anywhere else. Yes, you can export it via Google Takeout, but they are all but proprietary.

>Migrating contacts and calendars is easy, thanks to open standards (unless you're migrating in bulk)

Ehhhhh, Workspace has a half-assed EAS implementation that works until it doesn't (just had a client where it stopped exporting all his phone numbers, the data was still in Google but their EAS just wasn't outputting it). It's hardly an open standard but theoretically works for Outlook users migrating to Exchange.

Going anywhere else with an Outlook desktop user that actually follows the open standards (CardDav/CalDav) is extreme pain because Outlook lacks native support, so you need to use a plugin that will pull the data but not present it in the same way. The earlier mentioned client I moved to Fastmail and I still haven't figured out how to get his 'contact folders' to show and sync in Outlook without heavily customizing the views. Otherwise works in Android with DavX and iOS natively.

> you can export it via Google Takeout

If it works. I tried to use Takeout to split an 18GB archive into chunks last month. After waiting all night for Takeout to prepare the download for me... it gave me a single 18GB archive to download.

I've seen more movement in the opposite direction, from M365 to Google.

Mostly from companies who chose Microsoft before G Suite became popular for business.

But maybe it's industry-dependent?

In any case, you definitely need consultants because it's a pain no matter which direction you're going. Not a decision to take lightly, and you're not going to switch again for another 15 years.

I generally see Google -> M365 given the severe poor suitability of Google Workspace for enterprise businesses. And given those businesses often need to run Windows & Office regardless, sticking to Google makes even less sense.
>What are you going to do, move to a different service?

Probably yes for a few of my clients. They're only using the email and calendars, and only via applications (Mac/iOS Mail/Calendar, Outlook, or TB). Two of them started on the free one. Primarily staying with GSuite has been a matter of inertia and ensuring delivery, all the other stuff is worthless. This will probably be motivation to make the move this time. Other companies might have kept and "basics only tier", but I just don't think Google is serious about anything but ads when it comes to money. Even their subscription stuff seems frequently poorly supported, though perhaps it's better for the biggest players.

I'm very thankful I always pushed hard against webmail, had registrar/DNS independent and so on. It's added friction in some cases but means switching is pretty transparent. Lots don't have that luxury of course, but it's been nice here.

I just finally switched from a personal account to Workspace so I was a little concerned. Thankfully the price increase is minimal (and will be 0 since I can just pay annually).
> Switching out your cloud hosted office suite is probably a non starter for most companies.

I was recently at a startup that did this. Honestly, it was pretty simple.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/admin/moveto...

Enterprises have long term contracts with deep discounts on official pricing and locked in pricing on many services.
The lock-in is true. But it's still worrying.
It's a straight up nightmare to move email providers. Especially if you have an office environment built around GDocs, Gmail and trying to get people to move to Office365.
Email is by far the easiest of those things. Docs & workflows aren’t as standard so it’s not just an import but also changing how you work.
The Cloud is the new File Format lock-in!
Yes. But not over a 20% increase.