[Veserv]

It also does not know what one way street, do not enter, road closed, and speed limit signs are. Really, the only signs it appears to know about are stop signs.

As for their QA process, in 2018 they had a braking distance problem on the Model 3. They learned of it, implemented a change that alters the safety critical operation of the brakes, then pushed it to production to all Model 3s without doing any rollout testing in less than a week [1]. So, their QA process is probably: compiles, run a few times on the nearby streets (I am pretty sure they do not own a test track as I have never seen a picture of tricked out Teslas doing testing runs at any of their facilities), ship it.

[1] https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/tesla-model-3-get...

[ggreer]

Teslas have understood speed limit signs since 2020.[1]

1. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/upcoming-tesla-software-2020-...

[Veserv]

It uses maps for that.

I have a winding road near me with a speed limit of 35 mph, but 15 mph on certain curves as indicated by a speed limit sign. It ignores those speed limit signs and will attempt to make the turns at 35 mph resulting in it wildly swerving into the other lane and around a blind turn with maybe 30 feet of visibility. It has also attempted to do it so poorly that it would have driven across the lane and then over the cliff without immediate intervention.

Unsupported claims by a manufacturer that compulsively lies about the capabilities of their products except when directly called on it are the opposite of compelling evidence.

[ggreer]

I'm talking about standard speed limit signs. You're talking about the signs that warn about sharp turns and advise maximum speeds. Yes it would be good if the software understood those signs, but that's a different issue.

Teslas definitely read speed limit signs. I've had mine correctly detect and follow speed limits in areas without connectivity or map data. It also follows speed limits on private drives (if there is a sign) and obeys temporary speed limit signs that have been put up in construction zones.

[Veserv]

So they read some, but not all speed limit signs, and especially not the really important ones that inform you that you will be going dangerously fast if you do not read and follow them. That is criminally unacceptable.

[ggreer]

Can you name any car manufacturer that has software to read those signs?

[Veserv]

Waymo. Cruise. And I do not see how the presence or absence of features in other products has any bearing on the lacking safety characteristics of FSD.

Frankly, attempting to deflect by arguing that it is okay to release a defective safety critical product to unsuspecting consumers just because nobody else is willing to offer a similar product because they have some moral integrity is a stance that makes the executives at Ford presiding over the Pinto look like angels in comparison. All the Ford executives did was cover it up to avoid having to pay to fix it. At least they did not intentionally release a known defective and dangerous product just to recognize some revenue.

[brokenmachine]

>I'm talking about standard speed limit signs. You're talking about the signs that warn about sharp turns and advise maximum speeds.

Cognitive dissonance at it's finest.

[freejazz]

These are not the speed limit signs you are looking for!

[freejazz]

Not according the recall the NHTSA posted that is the subject of this entire thread....