[lkschubert8]

That's a pretty negative framing of labor unions. What are some good alternatives for gaining and enforcing worker rights?

[andsoitis]

the law

[kqr]

Who would lobby for worker rights laws if not... workers? And if they do, how are these lobby groups significantly different from unions?

[MrBuddyCasino]

You probably didn't mean it that way, but thinking this through will get you to the conclusion that "Democracy" (which isn't really a thing) is an engine for decline, similar to unions.

[jjtheblunt]

get paid more at a competitor is one classic protest technique

[bdcravens]

Unfortunately many employers use non-competes to prevent this.

[MrBuddyCasino]

Non-competes are evil and should not exist. They used to be unconstitutional until additional legislation was introduced (the details elude me right now).

[mschuster91]

For a lot of regions, employees are up against the only large employer in their area - be it Tesla, Walmart or Amazon. The latter actually is famous for setting up shop in devastated areas because labor there is cheap and forced by circumstances to accept whatever conditions they are given.

[MrBuddyCasino]

People living in poor areas will be devastated to know that a big employer is opening up shop near them.

[mschuster91]

The problem is the leverage these big employers have - they are free to deal with their workers as they want, including underpaying, breaking laws like anti-union busting regulations...

[johngladtj]

The good thing about people is that they have feet to walk away from those areas with.

[throwanem]

And cake to eat, no doubt.