[lern_too_spel]

Apple stores data on who reads what articles in its News app to target ads. It stores data on who downloads which apps in the App Store to show ads. It will do more and more of this. Unlike Android, iPhone offers no other source for apps, and it does not let you uninstall the News app. User choice is required for real privacy. By that measure (for users who care about privacy and choose apps accordingly), Apple is the worst choice for privacy.

[GeekyBear]

Basing the ad displayed on search terms entered or the page content is the opposite of a privacy violation.

The problem is companies like Google and Facebook, which track users across the web and relentlessly spy on everything they do.

Google literally spies on everyone's credit/debit card transaction data now, so they can spy on your offline life as much as they already do online.

>Of course, Google has been able to track your location using Google Maps for a long time. Since 2014, it has used that information to provide advertisers with information on how often people visit their stores. But store visits aren’t purchases, so, as Google said in a blog post on its new service for marketers, it has partnered with “third parties” that give them access to 70 percent of all credit and debit card purchases.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2017/05/25/242717/google-no...

[lern_too_spel]

> Basing the ad displayed on search terms entered or the page content is the opposite of a privacy violation

It doesn't just show ads based on current search terms. It uses your install and usage history to show personalized ads. https://www.macrumors.com/2022/10/22/apple-announces-more-ap...

The difference between Android and iOS is that with Android, you don't have to use spying services from Google or Apple. With iOS, you are required to use spying services from Apple.

> Google literally spies on everyone's credit/debit card transaction data now, so they can spy on your offline life as much as they already do online.

Google gets your purchase history whether you use Android or iOS. iOS is strictly worse for privacy.

[GeekyBear]

> Google gets your purchase history whether you use Android or iOS.

> Apple only stores the information that is necessary to maintain users’ accounts.

The difference is clear.

[lern_too_spel]

I don't know how you keep failing to understand this. How little Apple and Google care about privacy doesn't matter. What matters is being able to avoid them as much as possible. iOS fails completely at this, while Android fares much better.

[GeekyBear]

> How little Apple and Google care about privacy doesn't matter.

It's impossible to take this seriously.

Google, literally has surveillance capitalism as it's entire business model.

[lern_too_spel]

Are you really that dense? I showed you how Apple violates your privacy on iOS in a way that you cannot avoid on iOS. On Android, you don't have to put up with that nonsense. What the hell does Google have to do with it, violating your privacy whether you use iOS or Android or no phone at all?

You have no choice but to let Google get your purchases (except maybe via some opt out with your card issuer). You do have a choice not to send your app usage to Apple and Google, but only if you use Android.

As far as whether Google or Apple is worse for surveillance capitalism, only the former (and Microsoft and Mozilla) lets me opt out of them collecting my SSID location. That is yet another reason iOS is worse for privacy than Android. Even worse, it is impossible to get your location on iOS without also sending your location to Apple.