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by worksonmine 1219 days ago
I'm considering one of the Linux phones, don't use many apps anyway. I know that's a hard sell for most but it's becoming a real option even for normal users.
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I would recommend a Pixel with GrapheneOS or calyx.

You get the usability of Android with (optional)sandboxes google services/microg.

Almost all apps work and its really usable.

The problem is really the apps. Most play store apps are absolutely riddled with tracking libraries, even if you get them from Aurora store.

You can block some of their access but it's hard from airtight.

Better than nothing.
I can run Android apps with Waydroid on my Librem 5, and I also get the benefits of a full desktop OS on my phone.
>on my Librem 5

Sounds interesting. Goes and looks it up.

>>From: $1,999.00

You must be joking...

>>From: $1,999.00

This is the cost of Librem 5 USA (made in USA) [0], not Librem 5 (made in China) [1]. Also, I preordered it for $600 a long time ago, and sometimes you can buy from resellers for a similar price [2].

[0] https://puri.sm/products/librem-5-usa

[1] https://puri.sm/products/librem-5

[2] https://forums.puri.sm/t/librem-5-for-sale-eu-630-eur/19445

>>This is the cost of Librem 5 USA (made in USA) [0], not Librem 5 (made in China)

I suppose that helps a little. I seem to have incorrectly assumed that the USA model was intended for use in the USA, not simply assembled there. Still crazy expensive. For that price I'd expect it to come with a keyboard and mouse and replace my Thinkpad altogether.

You indeed can connect Librem 5 to any keyboard, mouse, and screen and use it as a desktop.
Well if you really want a phone that's secure and private, prove it by paying for it. Mass production and the ability to sell your data to advertisers means the stuff that does that will always be cheaper.
How does the Librem 5 support verified boot? What about user data encryption? Those are the first, most basic security features I am expecting from a smartphone. How about app sandboxes and strict MAC policies?
Librem 5 has full disk encryption since PureOS 10 was released. See also: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque....
Beats me, I dunno if it does. But if it actually has no ad network tracking, that's more than any other platform, and could easily be worth the extra cost if you actually care about that.

Lots and lots of people say they don't want to be tracked by ad companies. But how many are willing to open their wallets to make it happen? I'd say you can judge how sincere their commitment is by that.

They contribute upstream and make many improvements to the Linux stack in general. But I agree, it's not something many people are willing to pay.
If your actually interested Pine64 has cheaper offerings, for a Linux first phone. The original pinephone is only ~$200.