[Yaggo]

I think your experience reflects more your choise of car than EVs as technology. I have been driving Tesla happily for 3.5 years. I regularly make long distance trips to remote areas of Finland. No problems whatsoever. I pay 25 snt/kWh for on-the-road charging with Elli membership, about 12 snt at home.

[TheLoafOfBread]

The moment when you will get off the supercharger network with your tesla you are in the same crap as the rest of the BEV owners.

>on-the-road charging with Elli membership

Why should I buy some stupid membership so I can pay monthly fee + charging fee? I am not buying memberships for taking gas either.

[neon_electro]

Net cost of energy, and a quick payback on your monthly fee based on the savings vs. not paying the monthly fee.

It's math.

[clouddrover]

> The moment when you will get off the supercharger network with your tesla

There are 21 Tesla charging sites in Finland and 14 of them are now open to all EVs. So you could be making use of two thirds of Tesla's Finnish charging sites with your Skoda Enyaq right now.

[TheLoafOfBread]

Lol on 14 open superchargers. Tried Tesla app. It told me to insert VIN of my car, to tell me that this is not Tesla VIN. Well no shit Sherlock. So even if I would like to charge (and pay) on superchargers, I can't.

[clouddrover]

Everyone else is managing to. Maybe you should try again.

It just seems like a lot of your problems are self-inflicted. You could be doing things easier.

[TheLoafOfBread]

Or, hear me out, there could be NFC payment terminal instead of registering on ANOTHER STUPID APPLICATION

Even public transportation trams and buses in Eastern Europe have NFC terminals on board to buy tickets. Why is it so hard for a damn charger in Western Europe to have one?

https://www.dpp.cz/en/fares/cashless-payment-of-fare

[oceanplexian]

If you’ve owned any EV besides a Tesla you know this is sadly the cold hard truth. I’m not sure why EV owners rush in to try and refute the problems with charging but as a Bolt EV owner it was a terrible experience.

Imagine if every time you tried to use a gas station you needed to install a buggy, crashing phone App that required you to type in your credit card and other personal information. Imagine if 50% of gas stations simply didn’t work and you get stranded somewhere far from home having to sleep in your car. This is the reality of owning a non-Tesla EV. After a year of this and owning a rapidly depreciating car I said screw it and went back to gas.

[clouddrover]

So you don't actually want any practical solutions. You just want to have a whinge and a moan.

Instead of wishing for what isn't, you could be doing a lot better with what is.

[clircle]

"The user is the problem"