[Ambolia]

Exactly, the point of frameworks like React is to patch over issues with html, css, javascript and the DOM. Dropping React (the framework) will just make you deal with those issues in particular ways that only you understand, but it won't make them disappear.

[archerx]

That’s strange, I thought the point of React was to make websites slow and laggy so you can save on server costs by just serving json after the initial payload.

[Ambolia]

Some of us still remember the golden years of doing the same but with jQuery snippets spread through hundreds of files with zero logical connection between them except in the developer's mind.

[archerx]

I have no issues with frameworks and libs but the fact I know I’m on site built with react because everything gets laggy and my laptops fans start spinning is not a great selling point.

[Ambolia]

Yes, the web is a terrible platform for applications. Anything on the web that goes beyond the equivalent of linked PDFs will be wonky.

There's nothing on the web even approaching 1990s desktop applications. Specially if you care about latency, precision, and text inputs not randomly eating what you type.

Even with the wonkiness, the web is usually worth using because of the access you get to big amounts of data and backend servers providing nice services.

[robust-cactus]

I've literally never experienced this with react. This sounds like an infinite loop of some sort.

[dmitriid]

It's not even ancient history. React is only 10 years old.

[crabbone]

Aaaand... this doesn't make React good. It makes HTML+CSS+JavaScript bad. Here's the problem. These three need fixing. Or, rather, replacing altogether if you want a platform for distributing applications. While any strategy for replacement right now seems impractical, the opposite of it is not good either. Not being able to do the right thing doesn't make the least wrong thing the right thing.

[Ambolia]

Yes, but as you said the web is a broken platform for applications. Painting a picture where we lived in a perfect world until React introduced some problems is a wrong analysis. React solved some (not all) problems of the web as a platform for GUIs, and introduced a new set of problems. People make their choice and choose which set of problems they prefer to work with.

The web works well for displaying static pages with links between them (if you are ok with some ugly things while the page loads), but once you introduce Forms or any sort of interactivity with the user all hell breaks loose and you will have to choose what you patch over, and what sacrifices you make.