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Millions of people in Europe don’t have garages or easy access to charging stations. This policy is basically impossible in the near-term. The bet is that somehow in 12 years all of this gets solved. There is a real chance that ends up being the next biodiesel mandate and fails.

[Kukumber]

ban on "new sales", not on "existing cars"

so people will still be able to use their current one, and replace them with Electric or Hydrogen when it's time to replace their car

they'll probably then ban petrol/diesel from big cities, so they encourage people to upgrade

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In that scenario people will just keep their old cars for far longer than what the planners are imagining. Like Cuba which still operates cars from 60 years ago. The danger is then you have a society dominated by very outdated cars and a greatly reduced industrial base.

[Kukumber]

Cuba has old cars because of US sanctions that killed their economy and couldn't import anything

Here it's different, purchasers have still access to cars, so when they need to change, they can change, and what's gonna be available is EVs, by the time they upgrade, infrastructure will be much different than what it is today

Doing it gradually is better, gives time to strengthen the grid network, gives enough time for innovations to come into the market, so people don't produce much tech junk and a recycling industry can emerge

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The infrastructure may never materialize. Not to mention that the amount of EVs may never materialize, as they are hugely dependent on raw materials and can be subjected to OPEC-like embargos. It could easy turn into a vast market of used cars and very few new ones.

[mattashii]

The infrastructure is already materializing. >50% of the 119k public charge points in NL were installed within the past 2 years, providing their services to 328k BEVs.

And if you don't ever want to wait for a charge, then you can often use public transit, or ride a bike.

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You will need millions, and that includes a vast number of fast chargers plus grid upgrades.

[themitigating]

So we should stick with the cars that use raw materials that ARE dependent on OPEC embargos?

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Did the alternative suddenly become banning all EVs? No, the alternative is to not ban any type of car. Unless everyone attempts an embargo all at once, you will have backup options in that case.