[ericmcer]

What does it really offer? Performance and flexibility? It will probably continue to be a niche for really specific high performance applications but the DOM will always exist as long as 99% of the internet is just viewing or uploading text/images/videos.

The amount of experience and knowledge that has gone into fixing edge cases like accessibility, viewports, cross-browser support, security, etc. makes any kind of 'pure wasm' app a nightmare to maintain.

[dmitriid]

> What does it really offer?

While it really is bad, it offers things that need to be reimplemented by everyone from scratch if they go with Canvas, WebGL or WebGPU such as:

- accessibility

- text rendering (including proper font rendering, LTR text, multilanguage text, text selection etc.)

- even smaller things like tabindex

[pjmlp]

Not everyone, only the frameworks that matter.

Qt, Uno, Blazor, Flutter,...

Get ready for the revenge of plugins.

[rektide]

Blazor notably is not supplanting the page/dom/GUI at this point, afaik. Their main target has been HTML/DOM/CSS. The new "Blazor United"[1] push adds a lot more wasm/ is kind of a Combining Mecha of technologies, but still is an actual mime-type text/html app system. Microsoft was lucky/smart/right-place-right-time or some combo, & snapped up Steve Sanderson after his great Knockout framework & he's been helping them keep the compass oriented since, & giving demos/leading the way. Microsoft has done well trying to play nicely in the fold, build trust, rather than redefine/reshape/dominate/exploit the web, which has been a good move imo.

It amazing to me how much the phrase "pixel perfect" seems to excite most of the crowd you cite. Notably absent on Qt's site but basically implied. Uno, Flutter, Kotlin's Compose pitch... it's in the headline pitches, is the top bullet point, and I'm not really sure what it says to me. Is that level of absolutist & total top-down control an objective for computers & our human infosphere?

[1] https://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2023/02/03/blazor-... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34645558