| > Instead of replying indirectly, please address what I'm saying: what's the actual "reality distortion meme" I'm deploying here? Be upfront and accuse me of something I can defend myself of. "good faith" - it is a highly subjective term, but it is typically used as if it is objective. I will copy/paste this every time you represent that I have not disclosed the term - to others that sort of thing might be annoying, but to me it is fun! >> "good faith" - it is a highly subjective term > HN defines is pretty clearly (note there's more, I'm just quoting some parts): >>>>> "Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes." > So snark replies are out. a) People break the guidelines all the time. b) "Be kind. Don't be snarky...." - this text stands on its own in the guidelines and is not given as a definition of good faith. c) The only reference to "good faith" in the guidelines is this (which you are in violation of, as am I (and I have strong ideological reasons for my non-compliance)): "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." d) There is an important distinction between the definition of a term, and each individual's classification of behavior as being a valid instance of the term. > So calling someone an Iranian secret police agent is out. Agreed, thus I have not done that. > So instead of cross-examining me or trying to "catch me" somehow, address the fact I'm calling for nonviolence and restraint, and that I claim recent experience in the Middle East shows that regional collapse leads to the rise of fundamentalist groups and a general rise of unchecked violence. I acknowledge that you believe this, and that there is surely some truth to it. I will not refrain from criticizing your claims though. > Assume good faith; assume I want the common good. If I made a mistake, reason with me. I will assume what I want to, or nothing at all. My reasoning is above. > If you are an Iranian, don't withhold this information from me until we are 10-levels into a nested discussion. I am not Iranian. > Self-explanatory. I'd say name-dropping "reality distortion memes" is one such internet trope (one, to be frank, I still don't understand because you haven't explained). "Good/bad faith" is also a (much more) popular trope, one that I believe is also much more dangerous. > Need I go on? No, but you are more than welcome to. |