[andromeduck]

That convenient energy source needs to be stable, which most renewables are far from.

[kragen]

there are some advantages to it being stable, but even today, pv plus batteries is still cheaper than coal in much of the world

[palata]

If you ignore the fact that your pv panels plus batteries relied on fossil fuel for extraction/manufacturing/transport, right?

Now try to do all that without fossil fuels. Is that still cheaper, today? Pretty sure it's not (pretty sure it's not possible to do that with only pv energy right now, the infrastructure is just not there).

[kragen]

no, they don't; you are harping on irrelevancies