[erenyeager]

Method matters. If people overthrow the government in violence, then it is just another turn of the revolving door of violence. What will happen to the former partisans and supporters of the old guard? Not to mention, if a movement without sufficient ability to take power rises and fails, the loss in life and chaos in society will be far worse than the status quo.

Iran is not starvation level desperate, nor people trapped under earthquake rubble desperate, to my knowledge, so I do not expect a successful popular movement without buy in from the elite and military classes of the country.

[actionfromafar]

So, what method do you propose? Harsh language?

[erenyeager]

Patience

[kaba0]

Yeah, I’m sure if we would have just waited a few more years, slavery would have also ended, we would have ended child labor, women would be allowed to vote… come on, this is just utterly dumbly naive.

[TeMPOraL]

Can't say much about slavery, but the issues of child labor and women rights weren't solved through a bloody revolution, and there are good arguments that they were primarily the consequence of technological progress fueled by economic growth.

[actionfromafar]

On that note, we don't know for how many decades a popular uprising will be even possible. Technology may offer a turning point at sometime, where a rogue government can obtain total control and force over its populace.

[lenkite]

Actually Patience might be the best answer. The folks leading Iran are all quite old and once the big guy dies - only a few more years - change will happen naturally.

Don't need millions of deaths in another revolution.

[pinkbeanz]

Big guy already died once, change didn’t happen then and there’s plenty more to take their place.

[lenkite]

I meant Ali Khamenei. A lot of things will change once he passes away. Everyone is too afraid to do something that will upset him.

[actionfromafar]

Wow... I'm not sure what to say. How many decades more, for instance?