[jtbayly]

I didn't mean to imply that it doesn't do them today. It started doing them in the 1960s, and it ended them in 1979 based on the psychiatric results not justifying the practice.

People smear Dr. Paul McHugh today for ending it, but unlike the doctors at the clinic described in this article, he cared about whether his patients were actually being benefited.

Now we've come full circle and people are beginning to study the results, just like he did in the 70's. Not surprisingly, the same conclusions seem to be popping up around the world.

[lern_too_spel]

> people are beginning to study the results, just like he did in the 70's.

As I showed, people studied the same results that McHugh studied and came to the opposite conclusion. After studying more results, JHU reversed his decision. Not surprisingly, people biased by religious dogma come to wrong conclusions despite evidence to the contrary, and this has been true since the time of Galileo.

[jtbayly]

It’s pretty odd that you don’t seem to see the many other ways besides religion that people are motivated to believe certain things over other things that lead to wrong conclusions.

This has been the case since… the first man.

Edited to add that the most recent studies are saying exactly what McHugh said, and you can find them discussed in other places in this thread.

[lern_too_spel]

> It’s pretty odd that you don’t seem to see the many other ways besides religion that people are motivated to believe certain things over other things that lead to wrong conclusions

People who aren't religious just can be swayed by logic and reason. People who are, can't. It's that simple. They have to break out of their culture of denying reality themselves.