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by nhchris 1222 days ago
"Pride as well as shame" is not "ends as well as means", it is "it caused good as well as bad".
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Imagine someone saying that Nazis caused good as well as bad and not seeing how that necessarily translates to ends justifying means
Imagine someone saying the objective truth, regardless of what tortured implications someone wrings from it.

For example, the Wikipedia article on a different colonial empire, the Umayyad caliphate, is positively aglow with all the good it did (in addition to enslaving some of its subjects): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Andalus