[cmeacham98]

Common with offshore online casinos: you can deposit and lose your money, but as soon as you try to withdraw winnings the KYC rolls out and you better hope you're not a US citizen because you weren't even supposed to sign up in the first place then.

[josephcsible]

Why is "if you gambled but we found out you weren't allowed to gamble, we'll take back your winnings but not give back your losses" legal? Shouldn't it have to be either "we'll reset everything back to before you gambled" or "everything you already did stands; you just can't do anymore (and are probably in trouble)"?

[tablespoon]

> Why is "if you gambled but we found out you weren't allowed to gamble, we'll take back your winnings but not give back your losses" legal?

I don't know the actual law is, but it could be that the customer is the one who committed the crime of illegal gambling. If that's the case, it doesn't matter if keeping his winnings is legal or illegal, if the gambler brings suit he puts himself in legal jeopardy and I don't think the courts will enforce contracts associated with illegal activities (e.g. a hitman can't go to court to force his client to pay).

[thaumasiotes]

> a hitman can't go to court to force his client to pay

Somehow I doubt that causes many problems in trying to collect from clients.

[earnesti]

It is likely not legal but the gamblers are too lazy to take it to courts I would guess, and the casinos are in jurisdictions where it might be really tedious or expensive.

[cmeacham98]

It probably isn't, but generally their ToS says you're not allowed to be in the US when you sign up, and they don't operate in the US. So you'd have to go sue them in the jurisdiction of whatever island nation they're operating in (or get the authorities there to care).

Additionally, if you're within the majority of people who deposit money and lose it all you're not going to even know this unless you do some active research about the casino.

[josephcsible]

Why couldn't such a judgment be enforced from a US court, by forbidding any American banks from sending any money to their bank until they pay up?

[cmeacham98]

These sites typically operate using deposits/withdrawals in cryptocurrency.

[wpietri]

Presumably for the same reason you can't call the police if an illegal drug deal goes bad. [1]

[1] Which, yes, actually happens. E.g.: https://www.wect.com/story/22122424/man-calls-911-to-report-...

[tedunangst]

To the extent it's about money laundering, if you lose the money and don't withdraw it, you're not laundering it.

[omgomgomgomg]

Usually, it is all deposits minus all withdrawals are refunded. The casino will be in the red here, due to provider costs.

[layer8]

They probably count on you not suing them in the offshore jurisdiction.