[dumpsterdiver]

The difference is that one side has put actual thought into their argument, while the other side is attempting to invalidate the argument based on the fact that people other than themselves have not put in the work necessary to make a claim one way or the other.

Scientific progress doesn't happen by referencing the vast stores of data that we haven't collected.

[brookst]

Thought != data

[dumpsterdiver]

Indeed. Thought is what makes data useful. When you don't have either then you don't really have much of an argument, do you?