[brewdad]

Seattle is a weird hybrid that probably could be a model for what is realistic in the US. There a tons of walkable neighborhoods all over the city to provide daily necessities but you really do need a car to make that trip across town or even from one neighborhood to the next in some cases.

[noirbot]

Yea, the hills and water really mess up public transit routes in Seattle, making it a lot harder to get around by bus in any sort of efficient timeline, especially around the Queen Anne and Beacon Hill areas.