[victorvosk]

Hot take, I feel like people that complain Rust is hard typically write bade code in other languages. Rust is just preventing you from making common mistakes or using patterns that make your code hard to reason about and debug later.

[verdagon]

As a fellow Rust user, please stop saying this. Not everyone who codes like us is a bad programmer. It's this kind of sentiment that gives us a bad name.

Rust may influence us into patterns that are better in some (likely even most) situations, but not always. Sometimes the situation calls for other approaches, and that's okay.

[kupopuffs]

Think you're misunderstanding the OP. Do you think rust is hard to use?

[sidlls]

The OP is crapping on people who find Rust hard to learn by broad-brushing them into the "bad programmer" bucket. It's a hallmark of Rust zealots, and one reason why the Rust community has such a bad name. Which is a shame because the language is decent and useful.

[kupopuffs]

Fair enough, it's an elitist attitude!

[sidlls]

Hot take: your attitude is why people push back on the Rust community when they're in HN so much.

[MuffinFlavored]

As somebody who could possibly be in the category you described, once I learned about Arc+Mutex, I pretty much write code the same way I used to. That and maybe OnceCell/Lazy?

[qalmakka]

This, this, and this again. Lots of patterns Rust enforces are sensible choices even with a garbage collector, because data races for instance are still a thing even if you have automatic memory management