[wildrhythms]

"Quiet quitting", as you so aptly did not wish to call it, does not exist in a vacuum; it is a response to unheard, unaddressed critiques from the people who actually do the work, and likely the only avenue those workers have left to 'voice' those critiques. I think anyone who has worked in a large org, especially hot on the heels of laying off so-called 'high performing' employees, should be able to empathize with the message.

[pelasaco]

Quiet quitting, loud whining. I get it, this young generation has everything so hard in comparison with all others..

[6510]

You don't get it. You are entitled to nothing more than it says in the contract. There are ways to get more performance out of people but you have to decide if you need it and have to chose to do it. We can struggle and share the victory over a deadline or you can have those dumb shits put in some overtime and hope you will make it. You get to be whoever you want to be.

[pelasaco]

> You don't get it. You are entitled to nothing more than it says in the contract.

People have lost their sense of duty and responsibility to act civilized. Example: You have a meeting at 11:00. You wake up at 10:59 and don't want to turn your camera on or turn it on while lying on your bed. Don't prepare well for the meeting, didn't check, i.e., the scrum board, don't remember what you did yesterday, etc... I've been hiring developers since 2005. I still work as a developer. I played different roles as CTO, Product Manager, Team manager, etc... It's getting hard to get developers under 30 that can act as an adult. You cannot write everything in the contract, even though responsibility, organization skills, etc., are requirements for every job, and it is, in one way or another, written down in the contract that we all sign when accepting a job.