[pinkbeanz]

Forgetting the home vs fast-charger nuance here, important to remember than electric vehicles have no spark plugs, no muffler, no engine oil, and a very simple coolant system.

My Volvo XC40 Recharge has a 2-year/20,000 mile maintenance cycle, the only work it needs is a check of the coolant and brake fluids and replacing cabin air filters.

Having suffered through broken engine mounts, torn exhaust flex pipes, painful spark plug replacements, coolant leaks, pump failures, and countless other issues with ICE engines, the simplicity of electric is a breath of fresh air.

Of course there’s the question of what happens to the battery over the long term but i’ll take that trade over what ai had before any day.

[rootusrootus]

I tend to agree, though on the flip side there's things like the octovalve, which is a construction that doesn't really exist on an ICEV. I think there are some trade-offs, though I expect that over the long haul we'll see that EVs are generally more reliable. For certain I think that the norm will be the battery lasting the life of the vehicle, and when it does get replaced it'll be about as bad as replacing the drivetrain in an ICEV. So a wash in that regard.

[bluGill]

Any ICE car only has in addition 2-3 oil changes in that 20,000 miles maintenance cycle. Spark plugs are 100k miles.

Your car doesn't have an engine mount, but it has a motor mount that could fail. You have already admitted to coolant, which implies it could leak and it has a pump that could fail.

Most people who complain about how bad EVs are seem to be comparing a new EV to a very old ICE, or memories of their parent's generation which wasn't as good as modern ones. New ICEs are reliable and have been for a few decades.

[pinkbeanz]

I’m really comparing it to my previous ICE cars, both an Audi sedans and a Mercedes. All built in the last 10-15 years.

100,000 miles for spark plugs is extremely rare. I just pulled up a 2022 A4 and it’s 30k. Transmission fluid is 40k miles. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that the heat, vibration and weight from an ICE engine wears down parts faster. Add in complexity from turbochargers and there’s even more parts that can fail.

The coolant system on an electric vehicle is extremely simple. There’s no radiator even. An ICE coolant system is far bigger and more complex.