[agentwiggles]

I have trouble buying this, having seen the salaries being offered by local government agencies looking for devs. I guess if the layoffs depress wages across the board some of it might start to look a _little_ more reasonable, but even in a market that's nowhere near the insanity of big tech salaries, the government salaries on offer are laughably low.

[nicenewtemp84]

I know people that work in tech at decent companies that can't buy a house.

Every non major metro area mechanic, school teacher, city employee I know has a nice home.

People should really consider doing lower paying boring work in places your mortgage can be $2000 a month.

[Loughla]

>places your mortgage can be $2000 a month.

This is shockingly major metro-area-centric. I want you to know that, and I feel like people on this board really need to understand how HIGH urban and suburban costs are.

In many areas of the country, $2000/month is a seriously frighteningly massive home. For reference - in the middle of rural flyover, our 4 bedroom, 2.5 bathroom, 1800 square foot, full basement, 2 car garage, 1100 square foot full workshop home mortgage is 15 years at $750/month. We pay that, plus another $400 /month for the 70 acres the home sits on as well.

[solarmist]

I don’t think that’s still true.

In Spokane, WA 10-15 years ago you could get starter homes for under $100k. Now that price is at least $300k (after cooling off for the last 12 months).

If interest rates hadn’t risen it might be somewhere in between though.

[brightsize]

My 1911, 3br/1ba in-city Spokane house cost me about $90K in 2003, currently appraised+taxed at around $300K as you say. I've no idea how ordinary people [that is, those w/o high incomes and/or high levels of wealth], and especially renters, are getting by. From what I read in it the local forums and see at the food bank every week, a lot aren't getting by.

[solarmist]

OPs comment is true of minor metro areas as well from what I’ve seen. For example, Spokane, WA.

[floxy]

Est. payment: $1,601/mo, 4bd, 2ba, 2,478 sq. ft. -- https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/801-14th-St-Stanton-NE-68...

Est. payment: $953/mo, 3bd, 2ba, 3,192 sq. ft., 1.31 acres -- https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1950-River-Rd-Forest-City...

Est. payment: $1,097/mo, 3bd, 2ba, 2,326 sq. ft. -- https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/301-S-Warren-St-Watertown...

Est. payment: $1,139/mo, 4bd, 2ba, 2,148 sq. ft. -- https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/522-Clifty-St-Harriman-TN...

Est. payment: $887/mo, 4bd, 2ba, 3,123 sq. ft. -- https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/172-Nebraska-Ave-SW-Huron...

Est. payment: $1,107/mo, 3bd, 2ba, 2,957 sq. ft. -- https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/415-W-Parrish-Ave-Owensbo...

[throwaway4aday]

Yikes, even $2k is a lot more than what I'm paying. Living in a city has its benefits but RIP bank account.